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National Pre-Season XC 2019

GIRLS Teams - National 2019

Bill Meylan (July 26, 2019)

 
  • Girls - Contending National Teams
  •  ... I do this each pre-season for my own interest and to gather background information
  •  
  • Purpose
  •  ... Get a general idea where the national teams might rank overall
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  • Ranking Method
  •  ... General extension of the 2018 XC season into 2019
  •  ... Focus on cross country results ... modify selectively with track results
  •  ... Exclude teams with limited data or data that can't be guessed readily
  •  ... First Criteria - consider teams that competed in the NXN Regional races
  •  ... Consider performance in championship races
  •  ... Initially, combine about 85-90 teams in a single race scenario (via speed ratings)
  •  ... Eliminate 10-20 teams with the worst scores in an iterative process
  •  ... Stop when 30 teams remain ... Manipulate scores and positions based on other factors

Once the real season starts, I tend to ignore the pre-season.

Remember ... this list is just an informational starting point ... Real 2019 race results are what count.

I did add some Regional Projections

 

 National GIRLS Teams 2019
 

 Pre-Season Projection - Girls National Team Contenders - 2019
 ... Note - Scores have been modified to reflect NXN scoring - Previous scores included extra teams (July 29, 2019)


      School                   State   Score    NXN Region
      --------------------     -----   -----    ----------
  1   Summit                     OR     150     Northwest
  2   Fayetteville-Manlius       NY     230     New York
  3   Wayzata                    MN     231     Heartland
  4   Naperville North           IL     300     Midwest
  5   Mountain Vista             CO     301     Southwest
  6   Great Oak                  CA     305     California
  7   Yorkville                  IL     310     Midwest
  8   North Central              WA     350     Northwest
  9   Edina                      MN     360     Heartland
  10  Beavercreek                OH     361     Midwest
  11  Downers Grove South        IL     380     Midwest
  12  Niwot                      CO     395     Southwest
  13  Vista Murrieta             CA     400     California
  14  Saugus                     CA     401     California
  15  Saratoga Springs           NY     410     New York
  16  Bozeman                    MT     420     Northwest
  17  Saint Michael-Albertville  MN     425     Heartland
  18  Lone Peak                  UT     430     Southwest
  19  Ann Arbor Pioneer          MI     450     Midwest
  20  Muskego                    WI     455     Heartland
  21  Stillwater                 MN     460     Heartland
  22  Desert Vista **            AZ     465     Southwest (replaces Winona Cotter)
  23  Claremont                  CA     470     California
  24  Serrano-SS                 CA     480     California
  25  Cherry Creek               CO     490     Southwest
  26  Boise Senior               ID     491     Northwest
  27  Prosper                    TX     500     South
  28  St Francis (Sac)-SJS       CA     501     California
  29  Canyon/Anaheim-SS          CA     510     California
  30* North Allegheny            PA     520     Northeast
  30* Bolles                     FL     520     Southeast
       * added above (from below) for team
         regional representation from each region
         
       ** Transfer of the Ping sisters to Desert 
          Vista (fits closely to where Winona Cotter
          was originally with the Ping sisters).


    The next group is basically in order following the
     list above ... Many are very close and the order
      could be shuffled a lot:


      Battle Mountain           CO      Southwest
      East Grand Rapids         MI      Midwest
      Zionsville Community      IN      Midwest
      Traverse City Central     MI      Midwest
      Eagle                     ID      Northwest
      Carmel                    IN      Midwest
      Austin Vandegrift         TX      South
      Farmington                MN      Heartland
      Batavia                   IL      Midwest
      North Rockland            NY      New York
      Liverpool                 NY      New York
      Cuthbertson               NC      Southeast
      Auburn                    AL      Southeast
      Flower Mound              TX      South
      Bridgeland                TX      South
      Wheaton Warrenville South IL      Midwest
      North Hunterdon           NJ      Northeast
      Southlake Carroll         TX      South
      Lakota East               OH      Midwest
      Centerville               OH      Midwest
      Loudoun Valley            VA      Southeast
      Fort Wayne Carroll        IN      Midwest
      Mason                     OH      Midwest
      Minooka                   IL      Midwest
      Greenwich                 NY      New York
      Shenendehowa              NY      New York
      Ridgewood                 NJ      Northeast
      Belvidere North           IL      Midwest
      Pine Crest                FL      Southeast
      Eden Prairie              MN      Heartland
      Johnston                  IA      Heartland
      Lyons Township            IL      Midwest
      Holmdel                   NJ      Northeast
      Jesuit                    OR      Northwest
      Cherokee Trail            CO      Southwest
      Minster                   OH      Midwest
      Onalaska                  WI      Heartland
      Mountain View             ID      Northwest
      Champlain Valley          VT      Northeast
      Blacksburg                VA      Southeast
		
  • Where did the scores come from?
  •  ... 2018 Seasonal Speed Ratings
  •  ... Manual manipulation based on track results (but not many)
  •  ... Manual manipulation based on Guessing
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  • Last Year's Pre-Season Projections (Guesses)
  •  ... 2018 Projections & NXN Results are shown in a table below
  •  ... Of the 22 teams at NXN 2018, I did not identify 4 teams (they were unranked in the top 30 teams and not listed in the extra team list)
  •  ... 11 of the top 15 teams at NXN 2018 were ranked in my pre-season top 16 teams
  • General Comments for the Coming Season
  •  ... Top pre-season teams are typically highly-ranked teams from the previous year that return a solid core of good runners
  •  ... 14 of the top 30 teams above competed at NXN Nationals last year
  •  ... 8 of the top 15 teams above finished in the top 8 at NXN Nationals last year
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  • The top three teams (Summit, Fayetteville-Manlius and Wayzata) are the only teams who have won NXN Nationals since 2006 (FM winning all but two).
  • Major switching of teams #8 through #30 is very possible.
Comments on the TOP 20 Teams:
 

#1 - Summit OR ... Summit is the defending NXN champion ... Summit won NXN 2018 by 66 points over Naperville North ... I under-estimated Summit last year not realizing a top runner from Jesuit had transferred to Summit ... Most importantly - Summit returns their entire team of runners from NXN Nationals & NXN Northwest ... The excellent returning speed ratings from NXN Nationals are 150, 140, 134, 130, 126 and 117 (top runner Fiona Max is profiled at #15 in the Top Individual Runner Profiles) ... Summit is the obvious pre-season favorite based on returning numbers and team depth.

#2 - Fayetteville-Manlius NY ... FM has been the NXN champion in 11 of the last 13 years ... Last year, FM possibly over-achieved a bit in finishing 4th at NXN Nationals only 5 points behind Wayzata and 26 points behind Naperville North ... This year my numbers have FM and Wayzata virtually even-up at the #2 spot ... I decided to go with Fayetteville-Manlius because of strength at the top end which has importance at NXN Nationals ... FM returns their top 4 finishers from NXN and their #6 finisher ... FM's returning speed ratings from NXN Nationals are 156, 135, 126, 123 and 108 (and some those numbers may improve this year) ... Improvement at the #5 position could make FM competitive with Summit for the top spot ... Additional data on FM is available at the NY Pre-Season Team Rankings.

#3 - Wayzata MN ... Wayzata finished 3rd at NXN Nationals last year and 7th the year before ... Importantly, all seven NXN runners return ... Returning NXN National speed ratings are 134, 131, 129, 125, 121, 114 and 108 ... Wayzata won NXN Nationals in 2013 and were the NXR Heartland winners the last two years ... Wayzata is a top contender for a podium position.

#4 - Naperville North IL ... Naperville North finished an outstanding 2nd at NXN Nationals last year and the year before ... they were 10th in 2016, 14th in 2015 and 4th in 2014 ... Multiple appearances at NXN Nationals is a big plus ... Naperville North graduated their top 3 runners from NXN Nationals including top runner Alex Morris (7th at NXN and 15th Foot Locker Nationals) ... Despite the major graduation losses, Naperville North has returning speed ratings of about 130, 126, 124, 124, 114 and 114 ... and combined with excellence in post-season racing gets them highly ranked in the pre-season.

#5 - Mountain Vista CO ... Mountain Vista finished 15th at NXN Nationals last year and 6th the year before  ... Mountain Vista won the NXR Southwest Regional last year by 47 points, but did not have their best team race at NXN Nationals ... they return 4 of their top 5 runners  ... Returning speed ratings are about 136,132, 131, 118, 112 and 109.

#6 - Great Oak CA ... Great Oak finished 8th at NXN last year, 8th in 2017,  3rd in 2016, 3rd in 2015 and 2nd in 2014 ... Great Oak returns 6 of 7 from NXN (losing only their #2 finisher) ... Returning is top runner Tori Gaitan (#22 in the Top Individual Runner Profiles) ... Great Oak has excellent depth and gets credit for that ... Returning speed ratings are about 147, 135, 125, 121, 109 and 103.

#7 - Yorkville IL ... Yorkville finished 13th at NXN Nationals last year and 18th the year before ...  they finished 2nd at NXR Midwest (lost to Naperville North by 15 points) ... Yorkville returns 5 of 7 runners from NXN (but lose 1 of their top 2 runners from NXN) ... They did not have their best team race at NXN Nationals ... Returning speed ratings are about 136, 135, 126, 116 and 115.

#8 - North Central WA ... North Central did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 5th at the NXR Northwest Regional ... North Central was the Washington State 3A champion last year and return all runners from States and NXR ... Returning is top runner Allie Janke (#31 in the Top Individual Runner Profiles) ... Returning speed ratings are about 144, 128, 122, 119, 114 and 106.

#9 - Edina MN ... Edina finished 17th at NXN Nationals last year, 11th in 2017 and 12th in 2016 ... Edina was 2nd to Wayzata at the NXR Heartland Regional (losing by only 8 points) ... Edina returns 5 of 7 from NXN, and Edina has been able to reload in recent years with a deep squad ... Returning speed ratings are about 130, 122, 120, 118, 115  and 104.

#10 - Beavercreek OH ... Beavercreek did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year, but they had a good reason ... they did not race at NXR Midwest because the Ohio State Meet was moved to the day before due to weather-related issues ... Top runner Taylor Ewert (#6 in the Top Individual Runner Profiles) did make the overnight journey to NXR Midwest, qualified and then finished 3rd at NXN Nationals ... Beavercreek won the Ohio State D1 title ... the top 4 finishers from States return ...  Returning speed ratings are about 157, 128, 124, 124 and 99.

#11 - Downers Grove South IL ... Downers Grove South did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 3rd at the NXR Midwest Regional (but were not selected as an NXN "At-Large" team) ... Downers Grove South finished 3rd to Naperville North and Yorkville at both the Illinois State Meet and NXR, so they competed nicely in tough competition ... They return 5 of 7 runners ... Returning speed ratings are about 137, 123, 120, 120, 109 and 103.

#12 - Niwot CO ... Niwot finished an excellent 5th at NXN Nationals ... They finished 3rd at NXR Southwest and were selected as an "At-Large" team ... Their race at NXN Nationals was probably their best team race of the season (and that deserves credit) ... Niwot returns 4 of 7 runners from NXN including their top 2 ...  Returning speed ratings are about 140, 131, 118, 117 and 100 (a guess on my part for #5).

#13 - Vista Murrieta CA ... Vista Murrieta finished 7th at NXN Nationals last year (best finish by a California team) ... Vista Murrieta finished 3rd in the California State Meet merge and were selected as an "At-Large" team ... Another team that deserves credit for an excellent team performance at Nationals ... Vista Murrieta returns only 4 of 7 runners from States and Nationals, but 3 of the top 4 return ... Returning speed ratings are about 138, 124, 123, 113 and 100-104 (a wild guess on my part for #5 ... But I need to make guesses for this type of ranking).

#14 - Saugus CA ... Saugus did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year, but they have competed at NXN on a number occasions ... Saugus was 8th in the California State Meet merge last year ... Saugus returns 6 of 7 runners, including their top 4 from States ... Returning speed ratings are about 130,123,118,115,110 and 105.

#15 - Saratoga Springs NY ... Saratoga is a perennial competitor at NXN ... They have competed at NXN Nationals in 13 of the 15 years that NXN has operated ... Last year Saratoga finished a very good 6th at NXN ... Saratoga loses their top runner to graduation (Kelsey Chmiel, the #1 team finisher at NXN), so that obviously hurts ... However, Saratoga returns a strong group of young runners that could perform very nicely ... Returning speed ratings are about 140, 123, 120, 113 and 108 ... Additional data are available at the NY Pre-Season Team Rankings.

#16 - Bozeman MT ...  Bozeman did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 6th at the NXR Northwest Regional ... Bozeman returns 6 of 7 runners from NXR and Montana States including their top 5 ... Returning speed ratings are about 132, 125, 121,110, 107 and 105.

#17 - Saint Michael-Albertville MN ...  Saint Michael-Albertville did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 3rd at the NXR Heartland Regional, but were not selected as an "At-Large" team ... Saint Michael-Albertville beat Wayzata at the Minnesota State AA race by 5 points ... They return 6 of 7 runners including their top 2 who were freshmen last year ... Returning speed ratings are about 133, 126, 119, 117, 103 and 99.

#18 - Lone Peak UT ... Lone Peak did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 4th at NXR Southwest (2nd year in a row) ... Lone Peak returns 4 of 7 runners from NXR including their top 3 (the overall seasonal ratings including runners was a bit puzzling) ... I decided on returning speed ratings of 133,130, 124, 108, 105 and 105.

#19 - Ann Arbor Pioneer MI ... Michigan teams have a problem with the State Association regarding permission of attending post season meets ... Ann Arbor Pioneer did have 5 girls compete at NXR Midwest, but they were not counted as a team ... The full Ann Arbor Pioneer team finished 2nd at the Michigan State D1 race where their top 4 finishers were underclassmen ... Returning speed ratings are about 140, 123, 119, 115 and 102 ... Top runner (Zofia Dudek, winner of the Brooks PR Mile) is profiled on the Top Individual Runner Profiles page (near the bottom).

#20 - Muskego WI ... Muskego did not qualify for NXN Nationals last year ... they finished 4th at the NXR Heartland Regional (only 1 point behind Saint Michael-Albertville) ...  Muskego returns 6 of 7 runners from NXR and States (they were the Wisconsin State D1 champions), but do lose one of the top two runners ... Returning speed ratings are about 130, 118, 118, 113, 108 and 106.

 

 

  Last Year's (2018) Girl's Pre-Season Projections ... and corresponding results with NXN Nationals
 
      Pre-Season 2018
                                            NXN                  Finish Order at            Last Year's
      School                State  Score   Region                   NXN 2018                Pre-Season Projection
      --------------------  -----  -----   ------          -----------------------------    -----------------------
  1   Wayzata                 MN    259   Heartland         1   Summit                OR  -  #29 pre-season
  2   Mountain Vista          CO    260   Southwest         2   Naperville North      IL  -  #2  pre-season
  3   Naperville North        IL    261   Midwest           3   Wayzata               MN  -  #1  pre-season
  4   Jesuit                  OR    262   Northwest         4   Fayetteville-Manlius  NY  -  #6  pre-season
  5   Great Oak               CA    275   California        5   Niwot                 CO  -  unranked
  6   Fayetteville-Manlius    NY    300   New York          6   Saratoga Springs      NY  -  #13 pre-season
  7   Pine Crest              FL    350   Southeast         7   Vista Murrieta        CA  -  #30+ group pre-season
  8   Centerville             OH    370   Midwest           8   Great Oak             CA  -  #5  pre-season
  9   Lone Peak               UT    380   Southwest         9   Battle Mountain       CO  -  #27 pre-season
  10  Claremont               CA    380   California        10  Boise Senior          ID  -  #16 pre-season
  11  Yorkville               IL    390   Midwest           11  Jesuit                OR  -  #4  pre-season
  12  Buchanan                CA    400   California        12  Claremont             CA  -  #10 pre-season
  13  Saratoga Springs        NY    405   New York          13  Yorkville             IL  -  #11 pre-season
  14  Muskego                 WI    410   Heartland         14  Mountain Vista        CO  -  #2  pre-season
  15  Liverpool               NY    415   New York          15  Liverpool             NY  -  #15 pre-season
  16  Boise Senior            ID    415   Northwest         16  North Hunterdon       NJ  -  #30 pre-season
  17  Northville              MI    420   Midwest           17  Edina                 MN  -  #20 pre-season
  18  Granada                 CA    420   California        18  Flower Mound          TX  -  unranked
  19  North Central           WA    425   Northwest         19  Champlain Valley      VT  -  unranked
  20  Edina                   MN    440   Heartland         20  Prosper               TX  -  unranked
  21  Blacksburg              VA    445   Southeast         21  Blacksburg            VA  -  #21 pre-season
  22  Auburn                  AL    450   Southeast         22  Chiles                FL  -  #30+ group pre-season
  23  Peak to Peak            CO    455   Southwest
  24  North Rockland          NY    460   New York
  25  Mountain View           ID    465   Northwest
  26  Downers Grove South     IL    465   Midwest
  27  Battle Mountain         CO    470   Southwest
  28  Bishop Guertin          NH    470   Northeast
  29  Summit                  OR    480   Northwest
  30  North Hunterdon         NJ    490   Northeast
  30* Southlake Carroll       TX    490   South
		

 

 Girls Pre-Season Regional Projections 2019

 

Some viewers have asked me to do a Pre-season Regional "Guess" ... Below are some numbers from my worksheets by Region showing teams I considered.

Remember ... My main purpose is to identify teams for Nationals and not to do an in-depth evaluation for each region (New York is the only exception) ... That's why the list below is limited in some respects ... I looked at cross country performances from 2018 (from my databases only) and selected potential National teams ... I needed to find enough data on enough returning runners to make a guess without additional time-consuming searching (otherwise, teams got excluded).

I do not believe it is worth spending lots of time on the pre-season because we will find out soon enough who is good (and unexpectedly good) when the real season starts ... The pre-season lists help me identify teams that might need to be followed.

 

 
California
    Great Oak               CA      60    California
    Vista Murrieta          CA      84    California
    Saugus                  CA      85    California
    Claremont               CA      95    California
    Serrano-SS              CA      95    California
    St Francis (Sac)-SJS    CA     100    California
    Canyon/Anaheim-SS       CA     100    California

Heartland (Updated)
    Wayzata                 MN      60    Heartland
    Edina                   MN     105    Heartland
    Saint Michael-Albertvil MN     125    Heartland
    Stillwater              MN     135    Heartland
    Winona Cotter           MN     135    Heartland (Top runners transferred)
    Muskego                 WI     145    Heartland
    Farmington              MN     160    Heartland
    Eden Prairie            MN     180    Heartland
    Johnston                IA     185    Heartland
    Onalaska                WI     190    Heartland
    Southeast Polk          IA     200    Heartland

Midwest
    Naperville North        IL     130    Midwest
    Yorkville               IL     135    Midwest
    Beavercreek             OH     160    Midwest
    Downers Grove South     IL     175    Midwest
    Ann Arbor Pioneer       MI     220    Midwest
    Zionsville Community    IN     240    Midwest
    East Grand Rapids       MI     250    Midwest
    Traverse City Central   MI     250    Midwest
    Carmel                  IN     265    Midwest
    Batavia                 IL     280    Midwest
    Lakota East             OH     290    Midwest
    Wheaton Warrenville Sou IL     290    Midwest
    Centerville             OH     295    Midwest
    Fort Wayne Carroll      IN     295    Midwest
    Mason                   OH     300    Midwest
    Minooka                 IL     300    Midwest
    Belvidere North         IL     305    Midwest
    Lyons Township          IL     310    Midwest
    Minster                 OH     310    Midwest
    Lexington               OH     330    Midwest

New York (see NY Girls Projection Page)
    Fayetteville-Manlius    NY     115    New York
    Saratoga                NY     145    New York
    North Rockland          NY     265    New York
    Shenendehowa            NY     285    New York
    Liverpool               NY     288    New York
    Greenwich               NY     289    New York
    Shaker                  NY     295    New York
    Niskayuna               NY     300    New York
    Arlington               NY     385    New York
    Sacred Heart            NY     425    New York

Northeast
    North Allegheny         PA      75    Northeast
    North Hunterdon         NJ      80    Northeast
    Ridgewood               NJ      82    Northeast
    Holmdel                 NJ      90    Northeast
    Champlain Valley        VT      95    Northeast
    Indian Hills            NJ     100    Northeast
    Concord-Carlisle        MA     105    Northeast

Northwest
    Summit                  OR      40    Northwest
    North Central           WA      85    Northwest
    Bozeman                 MT     105    Northwest
    Boise Senior            ID     125    Northwest
    Eagle                   ID     126    Northwest
    Mountain View           ID     155    Northwest
    Jesuit                  OR     160    Northwest
    Hood River              OR     165    Northwest
    Camas                   WA     185    Northwest
    Lewis And Clark         WA     195    Northwest

South
    Prosper                 TX      65    South
    Austin Vandegrift       TX      80    South
    Bridgeland              TX      81    South
    Flower Mound            TX      82    South
    Southlake Carroll       TX      83    South
    Coppell                 TX      95    South

Southeast
    Bolles                  FL     125    Southeast
    Auburn                  AL     130    Southeast
    Cuthbertson             NC     150    Southeast
    Loudoun Valley          VA     160    Southeast
    Weddington              NC     170    Southeast
    Pine Crest              FL     175    Southeast
    Dorman                  SC     180    Southeast
    Chiles HS               FL     185    Southeast
    Marist                  GA     185    Southeast
    Mountain Brook          AL     195    Southeast
    Blacksburg              VA     200    Southeast
    South Forsyth           GA     205    Southeast
    Marietta                GA     210    Southeast
    Riverside               SC     220    Southeast

Southwest (Updated)
    Mountain Vista          CO      65    Southwest
    Niwot                   CO      85    Southwest
    Lone Peak               UT      90    Southwest
    Desert Vista            AZ      91    Southwest (added due to Ping sister transfer)
    Cherry Creek            CO      95    Southwest
    Battle Mountain         CO     105    Southwest
    Cherokee Trail          CO     125    Southwest
    Xavier College Prep     AZ     135    Southwest