National Pre-Season XC 2024 BOYS Teams - National 2024 Bill Meylan (July 25, 2024) |
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Once the real season starts, I tend to ignore the pre-season. Remember ... this list is just an informational starting point ... Real 2024 race results are what count. Also Remember ... Most top boy's teams contain a fair number of seniors, and those seniors graduate ... Significant graduation from last year means projecting many of the teams below requires guessing - occasionally it's a "shot -in-the-dark guess". NOTE ... This year, I manipulated many more "overall ratings" based on track performances I did add some Regional Projections
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Pre-Season National BOYS Teams 2024 | ||
Pre-Season Projection - BOYS National Team Contenders - 2024 ... Note - Scores are based on a race of the 30 teams listed
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Comments on the TOP 30 Teams: | ||
Note - The overall incoming speed rating number (the first number for each runner below) is a based on last year's seasonal speed ratings (the numbers in the brackets [ ] that are in sequential order with the most recent first) ... PLUS manipulation by me looking at track performances for nearly all runners. #1 - Herriman UT ... Herriman is the defending NXN National Champion (they finished an excellent 3rd at NXN 2022) ... Herriman finished 2nd (to American Fork by 42 points at NXR Southwest and by 6 points at the Utah State 6A race) ... Herriman had their best race of the season at NXN, and that's where it counts ... They lose 4 runners to graduation from those races, BUT four returning runners have an individual speed rating in the 180s ... In addition, Herriman is getting two transfers - Jackson Spencer from Syracuse UT and Cooper Tripp from Skyridge UT ... Herriman ran a recent 5K (July 24) with good results ... The last two XC pre-seasons, I said Herriman may better my ranking (which they did), but it will be hard to better a #1 ranking ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 185 -- Jonah Tang -- 12 -- [ 189 181 182
176 175 178 180 177 173 169 167 ] #2 - Christian Brothers Academy NJ ... Christian Brothers Academy is a multi-time competitor at NXN Nationals (won in 2011 and were 2nd in 2013) ... They finished 6th at NXN Nationals last year ... Christian Brothers won both NXR Northeast and New Jersey Meet Champions ... They lose 4 of 7 runners to graduation, but CBA is typically a deep team with an ability to add runners or reload ... Three returning runners have an individual speed rating in the 180s and their top runner is in the 190s (a great starting core) ... Several runners below have elevated overall ratings based on much improved track performances from the 2023 season (see American Fork below for an example of my method) ... Just a guess, but maybe Christian Brothers Academy will race better at NXN this year since NXR Northeast is scheduled to be raced two weeks before NXN (giving CBA an extra week of recovery) ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 192 -- Joe Barrett -- 12 -- [ 183 188 193
195 192 189 189 ] #3 - Niwot CO ... Niwot finished an excellent 5th at NXN Nationals last year (they were 12th in 2022) ... They finished 4th at NXR Southwest and were correctly selected as an "At-Large" team for NXN ... They are the Colorado State 4A Champion ... They return all 7 runners from those races ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 189 -- Rocco Culpepper -- 11 -- [ 188 183
186 168 183 169 ] #4 - Southlake Carroll TX ... Southlake Carroll has competed at NXN Nationals on multiple occasions ... They finished an excellent 3rd at NXN last year ... At NXN 2022, they finished 20th (rumored to have been hampered by a virus) ... Southlake Carroll was the Texas State 6A Champs last year, and they handily won the NXR South Regional race ... They return 4 of 7 runners, and Southlake Carroll usually has some depth ... Three returning runners have an individual speed rating in the 180s (and one in the 170s) ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 189 -- Caden Leonard -- 11 -- [ 191 188
189 184 188 183 182 179 ] #5 - American Fork UT ... American Fork has competed very nicely at NXN Nationals on multiple occasions ... American Fork finished 2nd at NXN Nationals last year ... They won NXR Southwest by 42 points over Herriman ... They won the Utah State 6A Championship ... They graduated 6 of 7 runners from those races ... BUT "all is not lost" - American Fork is usually a deep and talented team ... Top returning runner (Kaden Evans) has speed ratings in the mid-180s ... Incoming transfer (Dallin Harrington from San Clemente CA) has speed ratings in the upper 170s ... Next I applied some "guessing": Now here is where the guessing begins - As an example, Austin Plewe is a sophomore going into his junior year (a common time to see significant improvement for some runners) ... his actual 2023 XC speed ratings were in the mid-to-upper 140s ... I look at his limited available track performances for 2023 and compare them to his noticeably improving track performances during indoor track 2024 with most improvement during outdoor 2024 ... during outdoor 2024, Austin ran multiple 1600m races around 4:14 to 4:17 which correlates to a speed rating in the mid-to-upper 180s on my correlation chart ... But from experience, I know those 1600m speed ratings are too high for most runners, so I ignore them somewhat but remember Austin's 1600m times are really good indicating major improvement ... I want to see 3200m or 5000m track times in typical races (not races like Arcadia) ... Austin ran 9:24.68 and 9:26.91 for 3200m in the spring of 2024, and these times correlate to speed ratings in the upper 170s, and I assigned his overall rating below to 177 (it might have been lower if not at elevation ... I would rather under-rate this type of estimate for any runner). I used this estimation method for many runners in this year's National pre-season projections. Approximate representative American Fork returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 185 -- Kaden Evans -- 12 -- [ 185 181 186
178 179 178 175 177 ] #6 - Downers Grove North IN ... Downers Grove North finished 7th at NXN Nationals (and were 11th at NXN 2022) ... They won NXR Midwest handily ... Downers Grove North returns only 3 of 7 runners from those races, but do return 2 runners with speed ratings in the 180s and one in the 170s ... other returners showed improvement during track ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 180 -- Grant Schroder -- 12 -- [ 182 175
180 170 178 170 ] #7 - Belen Jesuit Prep FL ... Belen Jesuit Prep finished an excellent 4th at NXN Nationals last year (and were 14th at NXN 2022) ... They handily won NXR Southeast after winning the Florida State 3A title ... They return 4 of their top 7 runners from those races ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 188 -- Marcelo Mantecon -- 10 -- [ 191
176 188 192 187 185 181 178 ] #8 - Coeur d'Alene ID ... Coeur d'Alene finished 11th at NXN Nationals last year ... They won NXR Northwest (by 5 points over Crater OR) ... They return 5 of 7 runners from those races ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 186 -- Max Cervi-Skinner -- 12 -- [ 182
186 182 182 179 180 179 177 ] #9 - Crater OR ... Crater OR finished 12th at NXN Nationals last year (and were 4th at NXN 2022) ... They finished 2nd at NXR Northwest and won the Oregon State 5A Championship ... Crater returns 4 of 7 runners from NXN and NXR, but they return their top two runners (one of the best one-two in the nation, if not the best) ... ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 191 -- Josiah Tostenson -- 12 -- [ 192
174 187 167 185 169 ] #10 - Bridgeland TX ... Bridgeland finished 11th at NXR South and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They finished 6th at the Texas State 6A Championship ... They return all 5 scorers from the State Meet and NXR ... Bridgeland gets a very good transfer (Griffen Saacke) ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 187 -- Benjamin Montgomery -- 12 -- [ 188
187 187 183 182 184 182 ] #11 - Great Oak (SS) CA ... Great Oak CA finished 17th at NXN Nationals last year (and were 6th at NXN 2022) ... They finished 3rd in the California State Meet Merge and were selected as an "At-Large" team ... They graduated 4 runners from those races, but return a good core of talent ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 185 -- Westin Brown -- 12 -- [ 173 185
171 ] #12 - Ridgefield CT ... Ridgefield CT finished 3rd at NXR Northeast and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They won the Connecticut Open Championship, and return 6 of 7 runners (but lose their #1 runner) ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 181 -- Charles Lovett -- 12 -- [ 181 178
177 175 161 ] #13 - Jesuit New Orleans LA ... Jesuit New Orleans finished 8th at NXR South last year and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They won the Louisiana State D1 title ... Jesuit New Orleans returns 5 of 7 runners from their State Meet ... Three returning runners have a speed rating in the 180s ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 186 -- Brady Mullen -- 12 -- [ 183 183
189 182 ] #14 - ML King (SS) ... ML King (SS) finished 19th in the California State Meet Merge and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They return 6 of 7 runners including the top 4 scorers from the State Meet ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 190 -- Maximo Zavaleta -- 11 -- [ 187 182
188 184 182 171 ] #15 - Austin Vandegrift TX ... Austin Vandegrift finished 3rd at NXR South and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They finished 2nd (to Southlake Carroll) at the Texas State 6A Championship ... They return 5 of 7 runners from NXR including 3 of the top 4 scorers ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 188 -- Hudson Haley -- 12 -- [ 189 185
188 183 185 185 184 181 ] #16 - Plainfield North IL ... Plainfield North finished 15th at NXN Nationals last year ... They finished 2nd at NXR Midwest and 2nd at the Illinois State 3A Championship ... They return 5 of 7 runners, including 4 scorers and their top runner ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available (2023 seasonal ratings]: 182 -- Thomas Czerwinski -- 11 -- [ 181
181 185 175 178 175 ] #17 - Buchanan (CS) CA ... Buchanan (CS) finished 18th in the California State Meet Merge and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They return their top 6 runners from the CA State Meet ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 181 -- Luke Sanders -- 12 -- [ 167 178
179 180 162 165 ] #18 - Jesuit Portland OR ... Jesuit Portland has competed at multiple National races (and they get credit for that) ... They finished 6th at NXR Northwest last year and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... Jesuit returns 5 of 7 runners from NXR including 4 scorers (but did lose their #1 runner) ... They do return a good core of runners, and I give them credit for that ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 180 -- Matthew Wroblewski -- 11 -- [ 175
177 174 173 ] #19 - Coronado CO ... Coronado did not compete at NXN Nationals last year ... They finished 4th in the Colorado State 4A Championship ... They return 5 of 7 runners including 4 scorers and their top 3 finishers at the State Meet ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 182 -- Oliver Horton -- 10 -- [ 179 176
180 ] #20 - Rockhurst MO ... Rockhurst finished 8th at NXR Midwest and did not compete at NXN Nationals last year ... They finished 2nd at the Missouri State Class 5 Championship ... They return 5 of 7 from NXR and the State Meet (including the top 4 scorers) ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 184 -- Henry Acorn -- 12 -- [ 184 183 183
181 179 174 ] #21 - Arnold O. Beckman (SS) CA ... Arnold O. Beckman finished 13th in the California State Meet Merge and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They return 4 runners from the State Meet ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 178 -- Mason Nguyen -- 11 -- [ 163 172
173 177 178 170 ] #22 - Cheyenne Mountain CO ... Cheyenne Mountain finished 11th at NXR Southwest did not compete at NXN Nationals last year ... Cheyenne Mountain finished 4th at the RunningLane Championship ...They finished 2nd (to Niwot) at the Colorado State 4A Championships ... They return 4 of 7 runners from those races (including the top 4 scorers from RunningLane) ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 188 -- Aiden Le Roux -- 11 -- [ 188 183
184 179 182 183 174 166 ] #23 - Jesuit CA (SJ) ... Jesuit (SJ) finished 14th in the California State Meet Merge and did not compete at NXN Nationals last year ... They return 5 runners from the State Meet (including 4 scorers) ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 179 -- Isaac Abbott -- 11 -- [ 169 177
149 172 159 ] #24 - Mountain View UT ... Mountain View UT finished 10th at NXR Southwest and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They won the Colorado State 4A Championship ... They return 5 of their top 6 from those races ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 188 -- Kyle Steadman -- 12 -- [ 188 190
182 178 186 184 187 184 180 ] #25 - Valor Christian CO ... Valor Christian finished 9th at NXR Southwest and did not compete at NXN Nationals last year ... They finished 4th in the Colorado State 5A Championship ... Like last year, Valor Christian returns 6 of 7 runners from the State Meet, but lose their top runner to graduation ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 183 -- Kaeden Dendorfer -- 12 -- [ 184
176 181 172 182 166 ] #26 - Plainfield South IL ... Plainfield South finished 3rd at NXR Midwest (losing to 2nd-place Plainfield North by one point) and did not compete at NXN Nationals last year ... They finished 3rd at the Illinois State 3A Championship (behind Downers Grove North and Plainfield North) ... They return 5 of 7 runners form NXR Midwest ... I'm assuming they might develop some additional runners ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available (2023 seasonal ratings]: 186 -- Dylan Maloney -- 12 -- [ 181 182
181 190 179 176 ] #27 - Monroe-Woodbury NY ... Monroe-Woodbury finished 20th at NXN Nationals last year ... They won NXR New York and the NY Federation Championship ... They return 5 of the top 6 from those races ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 182 -- Shane Golio -- 12 -- [ 173 182 182
180 172 175 171 165 168 163 147 ] #28 - Lucas Lovejoy TX ... Lucas Lovejoy finished 10th at NXR South did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They won the Texas UIL State 5A Championship ... They return 6 of 7 runners (losing one scorer) ... ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 185 -- Caden Gary -- 12 -- [ 170 175 183
175 173 172 170 ] #29 - Stevens Point WI ... Stevens Point finished 16th at NXN Nationals last year ... They won NXR Heartland & were the Wisconsin State Division 1 Champions ... They return 4 of 7 runners from those races, including a decent returning core to compete in the Heartland region ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 181 -- Ethan Olds -- 12 -- [ 176 182 178
173 172 160 ] #30 - Hamilton AZ ... Hamilton AZ finished 28th at NXR Southwest and did not compete at NXN Nationals ... They finished 2nd at the Arizona State D1 Championship ... They return all 7 runners from those races ... Some elevated track performances suggest potential improvement, so I included them ... Approximate representative returning speed ratings with available [2023 seasonal ratings]: 179 -- Zarian Rodriguez -- 11 -- [ 172
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NOTE ..... The scores above indicate that many teams rate very closely ... The positions are just a guess at one point in time before the cross country season starts. Pre-season ranking is part data and part "educated guessing", and at the national level, I use significant amount of guessing ... margins of error and uncertainty is large ... My "guesses" are just one guy's opinion ... Some Regional Projection lists are available at the bottom of this page.
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Boys Pre-Season Regional Projections 2024 |
Some viewers have asked me to do a Pre-season Regional "Guess" ... Below are some numbers from my worksheets by Region showing teams I considered. Remember ... My main purpose is to identify teams for Nationals and not to do an in-depth evaluation for each region (New York is the only exception) ... That's why the list below is limited in some respects ... I looked at cross country performances from 2022 (from my databases only) and selected potential National teams ... I needed to find enough data on enough returning runners to make a guess without additional time-consuming searching (otherwise, teams got excluded). I do not believe it is worth spending too much time on the pre-season because we will find out soon enough who is good (and unexpectedly good) when the real season starts ... The pre-season lists help me identify teams to watch.
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California Great Oak (SS) CA 102 California ML King (SS) CA 107 California Buchanan (CS) CA 110 California Arnold O. Beckman (SS) CA 119 California Jesuit (SJ) CA 131 California Tesoro (SS) CA 153 California Mira Costa (SS) CA 158 California Matilda Torres (CS) CA 166 California JSerra Catholic (SS) CA 167 California Oaks Christian (SS) CA 178 California Bellarmine College Prep CA 184 California Heartland Stevens Point WI 112 Heartland Dowling Catholic IA 123 Heartland Spring Hill KS 136 Heartland Edina MN 137 Heartland Wayzata MN 147 Heartland Minnetonka MN 153 Heartland Ankeny IA 155 Heartland Sioux Falls Lincoln SD 159 Heartland Cedar Falls IA 162 Heartland Gilbert IA 174 Heartland Bismarck ND 184 Heartland Fremont NE 242 Heartland Midwest Downers Grove North IL 113 Midwest Plainfield North IL 146 Midwest Rockhurst MO 150 Midwest Plainfield South IL 173 Midwest Hamilton Southeastern IN 186 Midwest Northville MI 197 Midwest Carmel IN 214 Midwest Fishers IN 214 Midwest Rock Bridge MO 218 Midwest Barrington IL 221 Midwest Brownsburg IN 224 Midwest Columbus North IN 227 Midwest Jenison MI 238 Midwest New Trier IL 244 Midwest Allendale MI 266 Midwest O'Fallon (H.S.) IL 292 Midwest New York (see NY Boys Projection Page) Monroe-Woodbury NY 170 New York Ithaca NY 195 New York Saratoga Springs NY 240 New York Xavier NY 240 New York North Rockland NY 240 New York Fairport NY 255 New York Guilderland NY 345 New York Auburn NY 350 New York Clarence NY 355 New York *** (NY scores based on a 33 team simulation) Northeast Christian Brothers Acad NJ 25 Northeast Ridgefield CT 71 Northeast Haddonfield Memorial NJ 123 Northeast State College PA 125 Northeast Union Catholic NJ 125 Northeast La Salle College PA 138 Northeast Ridgewood HS NJ 139 Northeast Bishop Hendricken RI 148 Northeast Northwest Coeur d'Alene ID 96 Northwest Jesuit Portland OR 111 Northwest Crater OR 114 Northwest Issaquah WA 161 Northwest Sehome WA 167 Northwest Franklin OR 168 Northwest Rocky Mountain ID 168 Northwest Helena MT 187 Northwest Kamiakin WA 192 Northwest Boise Senior ID 212 Northwest Central Catholic OR 224 Northwest Bozeman MT 240 Northwest Summit OR 241 Northwest Billings West MT 302 Northwest South Southlake Carroll TX 53 South Bridgeland TX 75 South Austin Vandegrift TX 89 South Jesuit New Orleans LA 91 South Lucas Lovejoy TX 96 South Bentonville AR 129 South Brother Martin LA 141 South Katy Tompkins TX 197 South Southeast Belen Jesuit Prep FL 106 Southeast Trinity (Louisville) KY 160 Southeast Marvin Ridge NC 161 Southeast Huntsville HS AL 189 Southeast Brentwood TN 210 Southeast Greer Middle College SC 211 Southeast Harrison GA 211 Southeast Blacksburg VA 216 Southeast Tatnall DE 216 Southeast Vestavia Hills HS AL 216 Southeast Marist GA 219 Southeast McCallie School TN 243 Southeast Calvert Hall College MD 263 Southeast Woodbridge VA 274 Southeast Montgomery Bell Academy TN 280 Southeast University High WV 287 Southeast Farragut TN 302 Southeast Southwest Herriman UT 70 Southwest Niwot CO 96 Southwest American Fork UT 103 Southwest Coronado CO 165 Southwest Cheyenne Mountain CO 179 Southwest Valor Christian CO 180 Southwest Mountain View UT 180 Southwest Hamilton AZ 180 Southwest Riverton UT 185 Southwest added Viewmont UT 228 Southwest Mountain Vista CO 240 Southwest Thompson Valley CO 248 Southwest Lone Peak UT 259 Southwest Rock Canyon CO 263 Southwest Corner Canyon UT 290 Southwest |