Pre-Season XC 2012
GIRLS Teams - National 2012
Bill Meylan (July 28, 2012)
| Girls - Potential National Contenders
My pre-season projection for National Girls Teams is listed below ... I do this each pre-season for my own interest. Purpose ... There is one purpose ... Get a general idea where the NY State teams rank overall ... I am primarily concerned about teams likely to compete in NXN (teams that have shown interest, have competed or may be expected to compete). For the most part, the team listing below is an extension of the 2011 XC season into 2012 with a few modifications ... IF data for 5 runners on each team was not readily available (or guess-able), that team was probably NOT included ... This could exclude some good teams, but it does not matter because actual race results will identify those teams (and then I start including them and ignore the pre-season). My first criteria for this pre-season list is to consider teams that competed in the NXN Regional races ... Performance in NXN (both Regional & National) plus State Meets is the major focus (plus a few other major meets) because I am considering "championship" performance. Initially, I combined all potential teams in a single race scenario and began eliminating teams with the highest scores in an iterative process until I had about 30 teams remaining ... The scores are listed below along with the teams just behind the top 30 scoring teams. Remember ... this list is just an
informational starting point ... Real 2012 race results are what count.
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| National GIRLS Teams |
Pre-Season Projection - Girls National Team Contenders - 2012
NXN
School State Score Region
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1 Fayetteville-Manlius NY 90 New York
2 Saratoga NY 265 New York
3 Tatnall DE 270 Southeast
4 Fort Collins CO 275 Southwest
5 New Trier IL 280 Midwest
6 Grosse Pointe South MI 290 Midwest
7 Holy Names NY 310 New York
8 Carmel IN 330 Midwest
9 Simi Valley CA 335 California
10 Monarch CO 340 Southwest
11 Xavier College Prep AZ 350 Southwest
12 Saugus CA 360 California
13 La Costa Canyon CA 365 California
14 Assumption KY 390 Southeast
15 Estero FL 410 Southeast
16 Saline MI 430 Midwest
17 Bozeman MT 440 Northwest
18 Glacier Peak WA 445 Northwest
19 Southlake Carroll TX 450 South
20 Pennsbury PA 460 Northeast
21 Wheaton Warrenville S IL 470 Midwest
22 Davis UT 475 Southwest
23 Vista Del Lago CA 476 California
24 Bronxville NY 480 New York ** assumes Mary Cain runs
25 Dowling Catholic IA 481 Heartland
26 Neenah WI 482 Heartland
27 Aptos CA 490 California
28 San Clemente CA 491 California
29 Great Oak CA 495 California
30 Burnt Hills NY 500 New York
The next group is basically in order following the
list above ... Many are very close and the order
could be shuffled somewhat:
Coeur D' Alene ID Northwest
South Eugene OR Northwest
Lake Park IL Midwest
St. Francis CA California
San Lorenzo Valley CA California
Greenwich NY New York
Midlothian VA Southeast
Dallas Highland Park TX South
Ogden UT Southwest
Lee's Summit West MO Midwest
Ventura CA California
Tesoro CA California
Voorhees NJ Northeast
Palos Verdes CA California
Green Hope NC Southeast
North Shore NY New York
Mountain Vista CO Southwest
Redondo Union CA California
Shakopee MN Heartland
Garden City NY New York
Unionville PA Northeast
Prospect IL Midwest
Los Alamos NM Southwest
Lewisville Flower Mound TX South
Glenbard West IL Midwest
Tahoma WA Northwest
Champlain Valley VT Northeast
Lakeville South MN Heartland
Rancho Buena Vista CA California
Barrington RI Northeast
Bellarmine Prep WA Northwest
Camas WA Northwest
*** I may have missed a team or two going through
my databases as quickly as I did
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Where did the scores come from?
... In part, the scores are a composite of computer race simulations using 2011 seasonal speed ratings
(sort of) ... a few speed rating ranges were altered
based on track results ... I manually manipulated some numbers (because
I had to
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Hopefully, the girl's list above identifies many of
the top teams entering the 2012 XC season in a reasonable order General Comments for the Coming Season: Fayetteville-Manlius ...
FM returns 6 of their 7 NXN runners from last year's winning team ...
More info about FM is available from my
NY Pre-season Team preview, and
detailed info on the top 7 runners entering the season is available from
my Top NY Girls preview ... Fayetteville-Manlius is the odds-on pre-season
favorite to win NXN once again Saratoga ... Info on the Saratoga girls is available from my NY Pre-season Team preview and Top NY Girls preview ... Saratoga gets my "benefit-of-the-doubt" for a #2 ranking because of their success at NXN ... Three of their top four runners return from last year's team that finished 2nd at NXN and they were 98 points in front of the 3rd place Tatnall ... As a quick remainder of success at NXN over the years, here are the Saratoga girl's finishes at Portland Meadows:
. NXN 2011 - 2nd ..... I have a bias for teams with proven ability in the past ... 13 teams in this year's pre-season top 30 competed at NXN Nationals last year, and the only Northeast team included in the top 30 (Pennsbury) did not compete at the NXN regional last year (where they might have been favored, and that could happen again). Tatnall DE, Fort Collins CO, New Trier IL and Saratoga ... These teams are effectively even-up by the raw numbers. Grosse Pointe South Michigan ... I typically exclude teams not eligible for NXN, but Michigan has some really good runners, so I included Grosse Pointe South and Saline for reference ... Grosse Pointe South is a very good team, and it is a shame they are not eligible for NXN ... Since they cannot compete head-to-head with the other teams at NXN Midwest or Nationals, it makes end-of-the-year comparisons a bit problematic ... Results from NXN Portland Meadows is the defining end-of-the-year comparison (like it or not). Holy Names Academy (or more correctly, Academy of the Holy Names in Albany, NY) ... Holy Names is ranked highly because they got a top transfer from Saratoga (Estela Smith) and their talented group of runners performed very nicely during track (so I'm "guessing" they will perform well at XC) ... More info is available from my NY Pre-season Team preview and Top NY Girls preview. Simi Valley CA ... lost
some good runners to graduation, but Simi Valley has Sarah
Baxter who will be the top-rated individual in the nation (followed
by Erin Finn from Michigan) ... starting a team score with a very low
number is really helpful. Southlake Carroll TX ... I did some guessing here due to graduations ... Southlake Carroll always seems to reload, so I placed them in the top 20, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do better. Once again, I have a fair number of California teams in the lists above ... But this is the pre-season and much of my "rating" of the California teams is based on what they accomplished in California, and I feel reasonably comfortable with my California ratings of past seasons ... I do not (and never have) used NXN Portland Meadows ratings to "back-calculate" California ratings based on performance at Portland Meadows ... California-based racing and Portland Meadows in December are two different animals and must be rated accordingly. Other New York Teams ... Both Bronxville and Burnt Hills are included in the top 30 ... Bronxville's score includes Mary Cain (and she might or might not be running for the team, to-be-determined).
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| Last Year's (2011) Girl's Pre-Season Projections ... and corresponding results with NXN Nationals |
NXN Finish Order at Last Year's
School State Score Region NXN 2011 Pre-Season Projection
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1 Fayetteville-Manlius NY 60 New York 1 Fayetteville-Manlius NY - #1 pre-season
2 Saratoga NY 190 New York 2 Saratoga NY - #2 pre-season
3 Tatnall DE 260 Southeast 3 Tatnall DE - #3-6 pre-season
3 Saugus CA 260 California 4 New Trier IL - #14 pre-season
3 North Shore NY 260 New York 5 Carmel IN - #7-8 pre-season
3 La Costa Canyon CA 260 California 6 Fort Collins CO - #7-8 pre-season
7 Carmel IN 300 Midwest 7 Southlake Carroll TX - #23-24 pre-season
7 Fort Collins CO 300 Southwest 8 Xavier College Prep AZ - #25-30 pre-season
9 Great Oak CA 325 California 9 North Shore NY - #3-6 pre-season
10 Wheaton-Warrenville S IL 330 Midwest 10 Redondo Beach CA - #13 pre-season
11 Green Hope NC 355 Southeast 11 Simi Valley CA - #22 pre-season
12 Foothill CA 375 California 12 Saugus CA - #3-6 pre-season
13 Redondo Union CA 390 California 13 La Costa Canyon CA - #3-6 pre-season
14 New Tier IL 415 Midwest 14 Neenah WI - unranked
14 Granada CA 415 California 15 Summit OR - #30+ group pre-season
14 Ogden UT 415 Southwest 16 Glacier Peak WA - #14-18 pre-season
14 Campolindo CA 415 California 17 Humble Kingwood TX - #25-30 pre-season
14 Glacier Peak WA 415 Northwest 18 Assumption KY - unranked
19 Burnt Hills NY 420 New York 19 Midlothian VA - #30+ group pre-season
20 Pennsbury PA 425 Northeast 20 Monticello MN - unranked
21 Prospect IL 435 Midwest 21 Champlain Valley VT - #30+ group pre-season
22 Simi Valley CA 445 California 22 Hamilton-Wenham MA - unranked
23 Bozeman MT 460 Northwest
23 Southlake Carroll TX 460 South
25 Voorhees NJ 470 Northeast
25 Kingwood TX 470 South
25 The Woodlands TX 470 South
25 Xavier Prep AZ 470 Southwest
25 Woodbridge CA 470 California
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