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Pre-Season XC 2021

BOYS Teams - New York State 2021

Bill Meylan (July 28, 2021)

 

[ Combined Teams ] .. [ Class A ] .. [ Class B ] .. [ Class C ] .. [ Class D ] .. [ CHSAA - AIS - PSAL ]

 NY Boys - Pre-Season Rankings 2021
 
  • What good are Pre-Season Rankings?
  •  ... Useful in gathering background information for the upcoming season
  •  ... Topic of conversion during the summer
  •  ... Not used for any rankings once the season starts
  • Pre-Season Team Ranking Problems:
  •  ... Based largely on last year's XC results
  •  ... Some runners improve significantly or lose interest
  •  ... Some runners quit or transfer
  •  ... One runner can have a big impact on team score (plus or minus)
  •  ... Unknowns - Requires some subjective "guessing" by me.
  •  ... If data for 5 runners on a team was not available or guess-able, team likely excluded
  •  ... Covid 19 caused problems in terms of types of races contested and Fewer NY Races speed-rated (especially dual meets).

Remember ... this list is just an informational starting point ... I posted scores by individual class because some people are interested.

NOTE ... Some teams are not included because I did not speed rate most Dual Meets and they did not race in other races I did speed rate!

 

 New York BOYS Teams - Combined Classes 2021

                  Pre-Season Projection - New York Boys Team Contenders - 2021

         ---------------------------------------
              Scores Using Top 40 Teams
         ---------------------------------------
                                         Section-
         Team                   Score     Class
         ---------------------  -----    --------
    1    Corning                 175     (04-A )
    2    Burnt Hills             190     (02-B )
    3    Webster Thomas          280     (05-A )
    4    Fordham Prep            300     (CHSAA)
    5    Shenendehowa            301     (02-A )
    6    Fayetteville-Manlius    320     (03-A )
    7    Guilderland             325     (02-A )
    8    Xavier                  340     (CHS  )
    9    Westhampton Beach       350     (11-B )
    10   Saratoga                400     (02-A )
    11   Mamaroneck              415     (01-A )
    12   St. Anthony's           435     (CHSAA)
    13   East Aurora             445     (06-B ) ** updated guess
    14   Fox Lane                450     (01-A )
    15   McQuaid                 455     (05-A )
    16   Victor                  500     (05-A )
    17   Chaminade               525     (CHSAA)
    18   Liverpool               526     (03-A )
    19   Calhoun                 530     (08-A )
    20   Allegany-Limestone      531     (06-C )
    21   Pittsford Mendon        540     (05-B )
    22   Briarcliff              575     (01-C )
    23   St. Francis Prep        580     (CHSAA)
    24   Irondequoit             600     (05-A )
    25   Vestal                  605     (04-B )
    26   Port Washington         610     (08-A )
    27   Monsignor Farrell       625     (CHSAA)
    28   Suffern                 635     (01-A )
    29   Bay Shore               650     (11-A )
    30   Bethlehem               670     (02-A )
    31   Horseheads              695     (04-A )
    32   Iona Prep               695     (CHSAA)
    33   Oceanside               695     (08-A )
    34   Baldwinsville           695     (03-A )
    35   Pelham                  700     (01-B )
    36   Southwestern            705     (06-C )
    37   Niskayuna               710     (02-A )
    38   Irvington               740     (01-C )
    39   Sauquoit Valley         770     (03-D )
    40   Newfane                 780     (06-C )

  • Where did the scores come from?
  •  ... 2020 Seasonal Speed Ratings
  •  ... Manual manipulation based on Guessing
  •  
  • Uncertainty Factors
  •  ... Ability of a team to "reload" after significant loses (graduation, transfer, etc)
  •  ... Impact of new runners ... my term for this is "New Blood" (e.g. soccer transfers, first time XC runners, etc)
  •  ... Will returning runners improve??
  •  ... Team Depth ... Impact of Injury or Illness
  •  ... Impact of runners who decide to quit

Note ... The scores are simply my pre-season "guess" of relative team abilities in a combined race ... I included 40 teams to show some depth.

In General ... Similar to other pre-seasons, I see uncertainty in the team scores posted above ... Pre-season projections are often made with limited knowledge (or no knowledge) of incoming impact runners such as transfers (from other sports or other schools) or significantly improved runners from the previous year ... It requires guessing.

Corning enters the 2021 as a slight favorite based on speed ratings, and Corning did compete in both fall and spring XC.

The Covid problems of last year make any projection uncertain, and this is just an informational starting point.

One or two new impact runners could make a big difference for a bunch of teams ... Should be interesting to watch the development throughout the XC season.

Additional comments and information are given below by Class ... Class consideration is important in the pre-season because it impacts far more runners than projections intended for Federation Championships or the NXN-NY regional qualifier ... Profiles for the Top Individual NY Boys are available.

 

 

 Class A - Boys ... Pre-Season 2021
 
                                         Section-
         Team                   Score     Class
         ---------------------  -----    ---------
    1    Corning                 110     (04-A )
    2    Webster Thomas          175     (05-A )
    3    Shenendehowa            180     (02-A )
    4    Fayetteville-Manlius    190     (03-A )
    5    Guilderland             195     (02-A )
    6    Saratoga                225     (02-A )
    7    Mamaroneck              235     (01-A )
    8    Fox Lane                260     (01-A )
    9    McQuaid                 260     (05-A )
    10   Victor                  285     (05-A )
    11   Liverpool               300     (03-A )
    12   Calhoun                 305     (08-A )
    13   Churchville             345     (05-A )
    14   Irondequoit             350     (05-A )
    15   Port Washington         360     (08-A )
    16   Suffern                 365     (01-A )
    17   Baldwinsville           385     (03-A )
    18   Bay Shore               390     (11-A )
    19   Bethlehem               390     (02-A )
    20   Clarence                395     (06-A )
    21   Horseheads              395     (04-A )
    22   Niskayuna               400     (02-A )
    23   Oceanside               400     (08-A )

Like all classes, the Class A preseason rankings are based primarily on available speed ratings from 2020 (and spring XC 2021).

Corning is the favorite ... Corning raced XC in both the fall (non-school meets) and spring.

Webster Thomas has the 2nd-best team score, but it is based on only race (Section 5 Championship).

Three Section 2 teams (all from the Suburban Council ... Shenendehowa, Guilderland and Saratoga) have three of the next best team scores.

Fayetteville-Manlius was moved-up a bit because they typically develop some new runners and perform well at the end-of-the-season.

Any team with one or more "new" good runners or noticeably improved runners can improve their ranking position by quite a bit (and perhaps, a lot).

 

Some Class A Returning Runners by Team  

                            Highest
                           XC-Rating   XC Ratings by Race 2020
                           ---------  -----------------------------------
Corning
  Jack Gregorski        12    179     179 171 160 171 164 138 158
  Matt Gensel           12    175     168 175 157 166 162 161 156
  Josh Beres            11    164     164 156 152 149 151 146 144
  Marcus Homa           11    163     163 156 149 148 148 150 152
  Nathan Webb           12    154     154 152 153 130 133 131
  DJ Cornfield          10    150     150 133 147
  Gabe Cornfield        11    150     145 150 136 147 134
  Hayden Allington      12    133     125 133 123 126 118
  Nate Jennings         10    129     119 129
  Gregory Homa          9     112     112

Webster Thomas
  Connor Thomas         11    165     165
  Evan Lacey            11    162     162
  Jaden Barnwell        12    160     160
  Jalen Barnwell        12    159     159
  Aidan Civiletti       12    151     151
  Jj Montemaro          12    147     147

Shenendehowa
  Nathan Brimhall       12    180     180 170 178 174 164 175 170
  Michael Clay          12    165     165 165 147 160 160 157 157
  Jason Colindres       11    165     136 165 135 121 137 131 130
  Logan Doll            11    150     150 150 137 142 137 139 135
  Andre Adonnino        12    148     146 148 138 136 139 136
  Jack Dechiro          12    146     146 130 131 134 134 133
  Philip Mathews        12    144     143 143 141 144 135 118 136
  Christian Fox         11    142     133 142 131 132 135 124 128
  Paul Longo            11    139     139 127 121 132

Fayetteville-Manlius
  Daniel Patrick        12    169     166 169 166 160
  Jackson Matthews      12    160     157 160 149
  Anthony Otis          11    154     146 154 150 150
  Trevor Krukin         12    153     146 146 141 153
  William Seamans       12    138     134 138
  Henry Barlow          10    136     136 134
		

 

 Class B - Boys ... Pre-Season 2021
 
                                         Section-
         Team                   Score     Class
         ---------------------  -----    ---------
    1    Burnt Hills              50     (02-B )
    2    East Aurora              80     (06-B )
    3    Westhampton Beach        81     (11-B )
    4    Pittsford Mendon        125     (05-B )
    5    Vestal                  145     (04-B )
    6    Pelham                  160     (01-B )
    7    Mount Academy           180     (09-B )
    8    Eastchester             185     (01-B )
    9    Manhasset               190     (08-B )
    10   Somers                  190     (01-B )
    11   Tappan Zee              190     (01-B )

Burnt Hills is the defending Class B Champion from 2019 ... Burnt Hills finished 2nd in the Suburban Council Championship race last year using the the Section 2 Covid protocol against mostly Class A teams ... They return three runners with 170 or higher speed ratings (and other decent runners) which makes them the favorite in Class B and an NXN contender for NY.

East Aurora and Westhampton Beach have a solid core of runners which could make Class B interesting.

Update - Just informed that one of top runners used here graduated, so East Aurora's projected team score drops from the number listed above ... But East Aurora has shown an ability to reload in the past!

 

Some Class B Returning Runners by Team  

                            Highest
                           XC-Rating   XC Ratings by Race 2020
                           ---------  -----------------------------------
Burnt Hills
  Ryan Allison          12    176     175 171 176 174 175
  Matthew Rounds        11    173     168 165 173 173 170 170
  Peter Fulgieri        12    170     170 140 154 150 151 159
  Nick Grock            12    161     161 155 149 140
  Matt Windecker        10    152     144 147 152
  Silas Marvin          10    144     144 126 135 144
  Keller Casey          11    143     143 130 124 121 116 130
  Ben Smith             10    134     134 114 110 89 125

East Aurora
  Finnian Cosgrove      12    168     168 147 graduated
  Nolan Axford          12    161     161 161
  Evan Owens            12    161     161 145
  Pierce Ticen          12    156     156 145
  Ryan Zaff             12    146     146 140

Westhampton Beach
  Gavin Ehlers          12    183     181 181 183 181 171
  Maximus Haynia        11    175     175 174
  Trevor Hayes          10    167     164 167
  David Alvarado        12    150     150 135
		

 

 Class C - Boys ... Pre-Season 2021
 
                                         Section-
         Team                   Score     Class
         ---------------------  -----    ---------
    1    Allegany-Limestone       80     (06-C )
    2    Briarcliff               85     (01-C )
    3    Alden                   115     (06-C )
    4    Irvington               130     (01-C )
    5    Southwestern            135     (06-C )
    6    Newfane                 136     (06-C )
    7    Dobbs Ferry             170     (01-C )
    8    Hastings                170     (01-C )
    9    Fonda-Fultonville       180     (02-C )
    10   Falconer                185     (06-C )
    11   Pleasantville           190     (01-C )

Like other classes, the Class C rankings include only teams with available speed ratings for 2020 ... Unfortunately, some teams will not be included.

As normal, lots of uncertainty with remaining teams and placement ... Placement above is simply a best guess based on available speed ratings for 2020.

 

Some Class C Returning Runners by Team  

                            Highest
                           XC-Rating   XC Ratings by Race 2020
                           ---------  -----------------------------------
Allegany-Limestone
  Daniel Casey          12    161     159 161 151 152
  Jacob Brink           12    158     155 158 140
  Kohl Carpenter        12    149     140 146 149 133
  Alex Redeye           11    145     145 139 113 142
  Donald Higgs          12    145     142 145 143

Briarcliff
  Giovanni Culotta      12    162     161 162 157 157
  Coby Rinke            11    150     139 145 150 139
  Luke Dennis           10    147     147 147
  Kyle Phillips         11    147     143 147 142 136
  Josh Linett           12    143     143 122 127
  Kornel Smith          11    141     137 140 137 141

Alden
  Kyle Urban            12    177     177 163
  Mark Stoldt           12    156     156 137
  Matt Cole             11    145     145 127
  Matt Strasser         11    142     142 122
		

 

 Class D - Boys ... Pre-Season 2021
 
                                         Section-
         Team                   Score     Class
         ---------------------  -----    ---------
    1    Sauquoit Valley          45     (03-D )
    2    Tully                    70     (03-D )
    3    Oakfield-Alabama         85     (05-D )
    4    Maple Grove              90     (06-D )
    5    Mayfield                105     (02-D )
    6    Port Jefferson          110     (11-D )
    7    Frewsburg               125     (06-D )
Like other classes, the Class D rankings include only teams with available speed ratings for 2020 ... Unfortunately, some teams will not be included ... For example, I did not have sufficient data for Beaver River and some other Section 3 teams, or for most teams from Section 7, 9 or 10.

As normal, there is a lot of uncertainty in the pre-season for many small school teams ... Which teams will develop the most over the course of the season is a guess.

The impact of new runners (or newly motivated runners) could be really important and make a big difference.

 

Some Class D Returning Runners by Team 

                            Highest
                           XC-Rating   XC Ratings by Race 2020
                           ---------  -----------------------------------
Sauquoit Valley
  Logan Houck           12    154     154
  Matthew Hanna         11    145     145
  Ethan Benn            11    141     141
  Benjamin Logalbo      12    141     141
  Kole Owens            11    137     137

Tully
  Ian Rauber            11    154     134 145 154 135 149 138 149
  Connor Jackson        12    141     141 132 122 130 84
  Ryan Mize             11    136     136 68 127 128
  Jack Mohat            12    135     126 125 135 120 114
  Everett Chambala      11    131     114 110 131 113 98

Oakfield-Alabama
  Connor Demoy          10    147     147
  Jordan Schlagenhauf   12    132     132
  Colton Yasses         11    129     129
  Aiden Warner          11    129     129
  Kyle Porter           11    121     121
  Logan Clark           9     120     120
		

 

 CHSAA - PSAL - AIS - Boys ... Pre-Season 2021
 

         Team                   Score    Federation
         ---------------------  -----    ----------
    1    Fordham Prep             60     (CHSAA)
    2    Xavier                   65     (CHSAA)
    3    St. Anthony's            80     (CHSAA)
    4    Chaminade               100     (CHSAA)
    5    St. Francis Prep        115     (CHSAA)
    6    Monsignor Farrell       125     (CHSAA)
    7    Iona Prep               140     (CHSAA)
    8    St. John Bapt           200     (CHSAA)

The PSAL and NYSAIS teams are not represented here because, with rare exceptions, they did not compete in XC due to Covid ... The CHSAA ran a decently full schedule that I did speed rate ... So the Catholic schools comprise this group.

Fordham Prep and Xavier are closely rated and the preseason favorites, but other teams are not that far behind.

 

Some CHSAA-AIS Returning Runners by Team 

                            Highest
                           XC-Rating   XC Ratings by Race 2020
                           ---------  -----------------------------------
Fordham
  Myles Hogan           12    188     176 188 187 184 181 175 172 170
  Lucas Moran           12    165     144 165 161 164 155 160 146
  Liam Dennehy          12    164     151 158 162 164 157 161 154 161
  Dean Mayo             12    160     136 154 152 150 151 160
  Matthew Febles        12    139     123 139 139 123 126 111 114
  Dylan Zwick           11    133     128 133 132 130 119 123
  J. Brian Bates        11    125     117 122 125 120 119

Xavier
  Michael Hawkes        12    172     167 172 169 167 169 172
  Quincy Flett          12    171     168 168 171 164 169 164
  Percy Moser           12    153     153
  Finn Sweeney          11    153     137 149 140 148 153 146
  Connor Corcoran       12    147     147 146 145 137 147 138 145
  Matthias Oettl        12    145     145 145 129 133 139
  Wyatt Flett           11    143     138 138 143 139 132 138
  Daniel Carolan        12    143     132 139 133 143
  Matthew McCabe        11    135     119 114 121 122 135
  Anthony Malshyti      12    135     135 133 124 125 128 128 132
  Gus Hennegan          11    134     134 132 132 124
  Leo Carolan           12    133     123 133 125 125 128 120

St. Anthony's
  Graeme Olsen          11    157     157
  Aidan Brancaccio      11    154     154 149 152 143 140
  Graham Olsen          11    153     153 146
  Sean Dearie           11    152     146 152 140 139
  Hunter Wilson         11    151     151 140 143 126 125
  John Melloy           10    150     150
  Jack Ward             11    144     134 143 141 134 144
  Giovanni Prestipino   12    141     141 137 130
  Jeremy Paredes        11    137     137 133 124

Chaminade
  Owen Sweeney          12    158     158 152 147
  Sean Sorice           12    155     142 155 148
  Jack Higgins          11    149     149 148
  Liam Going            12    147     125 147
  John Zgurzynski       12    146     142 146
  Paul Cavounis         12    143     143 139 134
  Patrick Mulryan       11    140     140