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Manhattan Invitational Speed Ratings for 2007 To Be Deleted from XC Database

The Manhattan Invitational is billed as the "Biggest and Best". It has a great tradition of outstanding team and individual competition. Many coaches and runners love the Manhattan Invitational because it is a great spectacle in which to participate. Many Central NY teams look forward to this over-night trip to the Big City.

The problem is not the competition or participants ... The problem is the results, and has been for a long time ... I am not first or only person to criticize the results (I am just one of many).

There have been many errors in the posted results for as long as I know ... But now this problem has reached the breaking point with respect to TullyRunners.com ... I give up - I can no longer waste my time with the Manhattan Invitational.

Therefore, I have decided to completely delete ALL database records concerning this year's Manhattan Invitational.

TullyRunners.com still exists for one reason - Speed Ratings ... and speed ratings require reliable data.

According to various coaches from this year's meet, some posted results are off by three to five seconds in some races and by as much 30 seconds in other races ... Some results seem to be accurate ... and this is a common occurrence at Manhattan. The timing method and transcription of results lends itself to errors ... and the biggest factor is the incredible number of runners and lack of time between races which can't help but create mistakes (I do not blame the people doing it, because it is remarkably difficult to accomplish accurately due to the sheer numbers and method).

Several coaches cite the following as a common problem - slower runners from previous races get "inter-mingled" with runners from a different race and the people timing may or may not know who to time.

I realize many of the posted times are generally correct ... the problem is "many of the posted times are inaccurate".

For the purposes of TullyRunners.com, the time has come to treat the Manhattan Invitational results as "standard" statistical data ... When a significant percentage of the overall dataset can be deemed as "unreliable", the entire dataset must be excluded as unreliable ... Since my databases are used for ranking and determining speed rating adjustments, it is necessary to completely delete all Manhattan Invitational results.