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This web-page primarily considers the
match-up between Skaneateles and Pearl River at the State Level.
Nov 12 Update ...
Results of the State Meet
This was an excellent competition
... At the conclusion of the race, I didn't know who won the race.
Skaneateles finished with team places of 1-6-7-11-19 ... Pearl River
with team places of 5-8-9-12-16 (individual runners are totally
excluded from team scoring). The key margin was in the top
three finishers ... here, Skaneateles had an advantage of 14 to 22
... they won by six points.
The table below lists the individual
finishing places and speed ratings. The table further below lists
the predicted team scores and actual scores ... I expanded the
predicted list to include teams from additional sections because
runners from some schools wanted to know how I rated them. I
predicted a six point victory for Skaneateles over Pearl River ...
the actual margin was six points.
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Speed
Runner School Time Rating
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1 Jackie Kosakowski-12 Sauquoit Valley 19:59.2 133
2 Lia Cross-11 Skaneateles 20:07.2 131
6 Vanessa McKay-10 Pearl River 20:38.6 120
8 Vanessa Everding-12 Skaneateles 20:49.6 116
10 Julie Lynch-9 Skaneateles 20:50.4 116
11 Pia Desoiza-11 Pearl River 20:56.5 114
14 Jaclyn Gaines-10 Pearl River 20:59.3 113
17 Simone Bras-11 Skaneateles 21:09.9 110
20 Bernice Patten-10 Pearl River 21:17.1 107
27 Courtney O'Keefe-12 Pearl River 21:30.7 103
32 Cadie Cargile-11 Skaneateles 21:49.9 96
33 Leann Donnelly-12 Waterloo 21:51.2 96
34 Molly Lawson-11 Waterloo 21:51.5 96
35 Mary Denninger-11 Cato Meridian 21:52.4 96
36 Liz LeVan-12 South Lewis 21:54.6 95
38 Kathleen Barrett-10 Pearl River 21:56.5 94
45 Erika Geihe-9 Skaneateles 22:08.4 90
46 Mary O-12 Pearl River 22:09.8 90
47 Jenny Ryan-11 Clinton 22:10.2 90
52 Emily Everding-9 Skaneateles 22:16.2 88
85 Natalie Romer-12 Canastota 23:10.8 69
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State Girls
Class C Team Prediction (11-7-00) |
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Predicted Actual
Team Score Team Score
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Skaneateles 50 Skaneateles 44
Pearl River 56 Pearl River 50
Chatham 79 Chatham 101
Waterloo 109 Waterloo 139
Saranac Lake 162 Saranac Lake 155
Alden 168 Canton 158
Bayport-Bluepoint 190 Bayport-Bluepoint 160
Windsor 217 Alden 165
Spackenkill 220 Windsor 237
North Shore 325 Spackenkill 248
North Shore 311
**Section 10 not included
(I didn't have results)
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Analysis:
The projected score above may surprise a few people, but I think
this race can be very close. Now it won't surprise me if Skaneateles
has a super day and wins comfortably ... I have watched them race
many times, and this team is capable of an outstanding
performance. However, the computer simulations give Pearl
River a decent chance of winning ... I agree. Pearl River has
been improving and may ready for a big team effort. They are the
defending State Champion. Skaneateles must perform well in
order to win.
Margin of Error: the
"margin of error" for most of my computer simulations is
approximately six points ... this means that either team can win, but
Skaneateles has the advantage.
How the Race Will Be Run:
To be honest, I'm not sure ... however, I think the eventual victor
will be decided by two factors, (1) the match-ups
between the individual Skaneateles and Pearl River runners and (2)
the placement of runners from other teams amongst the
Skaneateles and Pearl River runners (this was a key factor in
computer simulations where Pearl River did best).
Good Luck to Both Teams!
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Nov 5th Update:
Skaneateles easily won the Section 3 Class C title race contested at
SUNY Utica Tech on Nov 4 ... the top runners were Lia Cross (2nd, 19:18), Vanessa Everding
(3rd, 19:57), Simone Bras (4th, 20:00), Julie Lynch (5th, 20:04), Cadie Cargile (7th, 20:21),
and Emily Everding (11th, 20:44) ... respective speed ratings of
129, 116, 115, 114, 108, and 100.
Pearl River also easily won the
Section 1 Class C title race contested at Westchester Community
College on Nov 3 ... the top runners were Vanessa McKay (1st,
20:12), Pia Desoiza (2nd, 20:14), Jaclyn Gaines (4th, 20:34),
Bernice Patton (7th, 20:48), Courtney O'Keefe (20:58), and Kathleen
Barrett (10th, 21:27) ... respective speed ratings of 123, 122, 115,
111, 107, and 98.
I need a couple of days to collect
and analyze results from other sections to access their impact on
the Skaneateles - Pearl River match-up ... I will post the computer
simulation results when I'm finished. |
Oct 30th Update: Skaneateles
easily won the OHSL League Championship Meet run at Baldwinsville (Oct 28)
... runners from 36 teams participated. The Skaneateles runners included
Vanessa Everding (2nd, 19:17), Lia Cross (3rd, 19:17), Julie Lynch (7th,
19:45), Simone Bras (8th, 19:47), Cadie Cargile (20th, 20:27),Emily
Everding (26th, 20:40), Erika Geihe (31st, 20:47) ... respective speed
ratings of 125, 125, 116, 115, 102, 98 and 95. Vanessa Everding looked
especially comfortable ... the best I have ever seen her in a cross
country race; and Simone Bras ran very well also.
Oct 27th Update: Pearl River
won the Rockland Championships contested at the Bear Mountain on Oct 26
with a score of 18 ... they beat North Rockland (56), Clarkstown North
(99), and Suffern (105). Top finishers were Vanessa McKay (1st,18:44),
Jaclyn Gaines (2nd, 19:03), Bernice Patten (4th, 19:16), Courtney O'Keefe
(5th, 19:19), Pia Desoiza (6th, 19:31) and Kathleen Barrett (8th, 19:51)
... respective speed ratings of 122, 116, 111, 110, 106 and 100 indicating
that Pearl River is continuing to improve!
A brief note about the Pearl River boys at
this championship: Pearl River's Brendan Fennell (15:02) beat Justin
Romaniuk (Suffern, 15:25) ... Brendan's speed rating (195) is on par with
last year's Federation Meet winner (Aaron Emery of Beaver River). The next
three Pearl River runners ran fast enough to normally beat the Tully Boys
top runner (and Tully is the legitimate favorite to win the boy's State
Class D race). They will be tough to beat in Class C at the State Meet.
Oct 23rd Update:
Skaneateles did not compete this past weekend ... however, they will
be competing next Saturday (Oct 28) in the Onondaga High School
League (OHSL) Championships at Baldwinsville. They are favored to
win the 32-school meet that includes Fayetteville-Manlius, West
Genesee, Liverpool, CNS, Westhill, and Tully.
Pearl River competed in the Section 1
Coaches Invitational held at Westchester CC (site of last year's
State Meet). They won the V3 race with a score of 30 ... runner-up
Arlington had a score of 51. According to ArmoryTrack.com,
the top three Pearl River finishers were Jaclyn Gaines (3rd, 20:53.9), Vanessa McKay (4th, 20:54.1) and Bernice Patten (5th,
20:58.3) ... my speed ratings for these times are 114, 114, and 112
respectively. Courtney O'Keefe (8th, 21:30) is showing continual
improvement during her come-back (rating of 102).
Skaneateles has the advantage
according to my speed ratings, but Pearl River is beginning to close
the gap ... a lot can happen in the three weeks leading to the State
Meet. Hopefully, next week I can go into more depth concerning this
match-up. I think the outcome is much closer than the speed ratings
indicate ... remember, the speed ratings you see here measure how
fast a runner has run, NOT how fast the runner will run.
My computer simulation have a "prediction-mode" ... while
some of the Pearl River results are inconsistent (on an individual
basis), there's a definite trend for rapid improvement. |
Oct 19th Update: Skaneateles won the
B1-B2 Crossover Championship Meet contested at Phoenix High School (Oct
18th) with a score of 18 ... other schools included Westhill (71), Phoenix
(90), Chittenango (138), APW (161), Homer (175), Jordan-Elbridge (217),
Mexico (243), Cazenovia (294), Jamesville-Dewitt (349) Solvay (520),
Marcellus (543), and Cortland (inc). Skaneateles finishers included
Vanessa Everding (1st, 19:38), Julie Lynch (2nd, 19:43), Cadie Cargile
(3rd, 19:45), Simone Bras (4th, 20:06), Erika Geihe (8th, 20:45), Emily
Everding (9th, 20:45), and Lindsay Stanley (13th, 21:09) ... Lia Cross did
not run due to a nasty head cold.
Oct 16th Update:
Just a brief update this week.
Skaneateles did not race this weekend ... their current schedule does not
show any Saturday races until Oct 28 (OHSL League Meet at Baldwinsville).
Pearl River competed in the Manhattan Invitational at Van Cortlandt Park
... they won the Girls Division D Race. Courtney O'Keefe (previously
side-lined by a stress fracture), ran her second invitational and showed
significant improvement from the St. Anthony Invitational a week earlier.
Vanessa McKay (7th, 15:32.2) was the top Pearl River runner followed by Pia DeSoiza
(14th, 15:43) and Bernice Patten (17th, 15:50.5).
Oct 9th Update:
Skaneateles competed in the Baldwinsville Invitational. Coach
Reed decided to move-up to the "A" division race and
challenge the #1 nationally ranked Saratoga Springs team
... Skaneateles actually ran their best race of the year ... only
six Saratoga girls finished in front of the first Skaneateles runner
(Lia Cross) ... Saratoga edged-out a narrow 19-72 victory. But I
give Skaneateles a lot of credit ... they chased the Saratoga girls
very well and posted some impressive race times. Here are my speed ratings for
Skaneateles: Lia Cross (128), Vanessa Everding (123),
Cadie Cargile (122 ... her best ever), Julie Lynch (113), and Emily Everding
(99).
Pearl River competed in the St.
Anthony Invitational at Sunken Meadows (A2 division). Here are my speed ratings: Pia
Desoiza (113), Vanessa McKay (100), Mary O (88), Bernice Patton
(95), Lyza Sanchez (84,)
Caitlin Hanley (83), and Courtney O'Keefe (80). Skaneateles has a
substantial lead, but I'm reserving judgment ... I believe the Pearl
River team will begin improving rapidly as sectionals and the State
meet approaches. This is a quality team with quality runners ...
don't count them out. |
Oct 3rd Update:
Skaneateles competed at the McQuaid Invitational against the top ranked
Class B team (Honeoye Falls-Lima) and were narrowly defeated 64-65 ...
before incomplete team runners were excluded from the scoring, the score
was tied 72-72. Here are my speed ratings for
Skaneateles' top five: Lia Cross (127), Vanessa Everding (118),
Cadie Cargile (110), Julie Lynch (113), and Simone Bras (99) ...
Emily Everding continues to show improvement with a 95 rating.
Pearl River flew to Stanford University to
compete in a very large high school-college invitational. One of their top
runners was unable to compete due to an unexpected death in the family.
Despite a saddened morale, Pearl River was able to win their division.
Here are my speed ratings: Pia
Desoiza (100), Mary O (94), Bernice Patton (87), Jaclyn Gaines (86) and
Caitlin Hanley (89).
Sept 27th Update:
Skaneateles competed at the Auburn Invitational while Pearl River
came to the New Hartford Invitational at SUNY Utica. Both races were
run in rainy muddy conditions and both teams won their individual
races.
I was at New Hartford and watched
Pearl River. They are an impressive team with an excellent coach
(Dan Doherty). I first watched their JV team run in a race with 200+
runners ... their top five runners finished a remarkable 1st, 2nd,
4th, 5th and 6th. In the varsity race, Pearl River beat a very good
Liverpool team by 60-75 ... here are my speed ratings for Pearl
River's top five at New Hartford: Vanessa McKay (113), Pia
Desoiza (101), Mary O (98), Bernice Patton (93), and Lyza Sanchez
(80).
At Auburn, Skaneateles beat an
excellent Groton team by 24-33. Here are my speed ratings for
Skaneateles' top five: Lia Cross (124), Vanessa Everding (118),
Cadie Cargile (115), Julie Lynch (105), and Simone Bras (92). In the
JV race, Emily Everding had a much improved rating of 90 ... she may
surprise some people this year.
Once again, the Skaneateles ratings
are ahead of Pearl River. However, Pearl River has a very deep and
talented team that is continually improving ... their ratings are
very similar to last year at this time. In addition, some of Pearl
River's JV runners may have an impact at the varsity level (they
really impressed me). Pearl River is hampered somewhat by a stress
fracture injury to outstanding runner Courtney O'Keefe ... but their
depth is a real bonus. The Skaneateles - Pearl River match-up is
going to be very interesting. |
Sept 18th Update: Skaneateles
did not compete on the weekend of Sept 16th. Pearl River competed in the
Briarwood Invitational at Belmont Plateau in Philadelphia (PA) ... they
won the Championship Division scoring 68 pts with Archbishop Prendergast
2nd (89) and Hunterdon Central (NJ) 3rd (92). Only the top ten overall
individual finishers in the race were available ... Vanessa McKay finished
4th (19:59) and Pia DeSoiza finished 9th (20:24) ... insufficient data
were available to calculate speed ratings (I don't know enough about the
other teams, runners or the course). Therefore, it is still to early to
make a meaningful evaluation ... the State Rankings at the Section
III website have Pearl River #1 and Skaneateles #2.
Sept 13: Here are my ratings for
the first week-end of the Skaneateles versus Pearl River match-up.
Skaneateles ran in the Liverpool Invitational and Pearl River ran in
the York Invitational at Washington HS. Skaneateles has a clear
advantage based on these results ... however, several top Pearl
River runners did not race. Also, Pearl River improved significantly
last year as the season progressed. It is too early to make a
meaningful evaluation ... but Skaneateles looked great at
Liverpool. |
Runner School Race Time Speed Rating
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Lia Cross Skaneateles 19:00.4 127
Vanessa Everding Skaneateles 19:18.5 121
Cadie Cargile Skaneateles 19:36.6 114
Simone Bras Skaneateles 20:34.0 95
Erika Giehe Skaneateles 20:58.0 87
Emily Everding Skaneateles 21:36.9 74
Merritt Haswell Skaneateles 21:40.6 73
Vanessa McKay Pearl River 19:54.2 115
Lyza Sanchez Pearl River 20:43.8 99
Pia Desoiza Pearl River 20:54.1 95
Mary O Pearl River 20:56.2 95
Bernice Patton Pearl River 21:35.7 81
Kathleen Bassett Pearl River 22:21.4 66
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1999 State Meet Girls Class C Team Results:
1. Pearl River - 37 (Section I)
2. Skaneateles - 63 (Section III)
3. Allegany-Limestone - 102 (Section VI)
4. Waterloo - 124 (Section V)
1999 Federation Meet Girls Team Results:
1. Colonie - 48
2. Saratoga - 93
3. Honeoye Falls-Lima - 163
4. Pearl River - 183
5. Skaneateles - 219
Click here
for 1999 Performance Listings
Pre-Season 2000
Analysis |
Skaneateles |
Skaneateles returns their
top five runners from last year (Lia Cross, Vanessa Everding, Cadie
Cargile, Simone Bras and Emily Everding). Skaneateles is the top
ranked team in Section 3 (all classes).
Vanessa Everding and Lia Cross had
outstanding spring seasons in track. At States, Lia finished 2nd in
the 3000m (10:45.42; Class B) and Vanessa finished 4th in the 1500m
(4:45.81; Class B).
Skaneateles had an outstanding junior
high team last year ... this could result in a very positive impact
for the varsity team. Coach Jack Reed is one of the finest coaches
in New York (or anywhere for that matter) ... how many other coaches
keep a large chronograph timer in their living room?
Considering their returning runners, new runners, and coach, I believe Skaneateles
could reverse last year's results and
become the top Class C team in the State ... It won't be easy ...
Pearl River is too good. Go to
the Skaneateles XC News
web-site for additional information. |
Pearl River |
Not to be outdone, Pearl
River returns their top six runners from last year (Courtney O'Keefe,
Vanessa McKay, Caitlin Hanley, Lyza Sanchez, Bernice Patten and Pia
Desoiza).
At the State Track Meet in June,
freshman Erin Demchko beat Vanessa Everding of Skaneateles in the
1500m (4:42.50 to 4:45.81) ... I don't know if she runs XC.
Pearl River is the number 2 ranked
team overall in NY State for the entire 1990's (see
link) ... second only to Saratoga. They have a tradition of
excellence. I believe 2000 will be no different ... they may
beat Skaneateles, but they need to improve upon last year because
Skaneateles will be better than last year. |
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